12/16/2025
🎙️ Final Interview Episode of the Year is LIVE
I decided to close out the year with a conversation that challenges one of the most common assumptions in business:
We think we scale through processes.
But companies actually scale through people.
That’s why the new episode is titled:
Scaling People Before Processes: The Part of Leadership Everyone Ignores Until It’s Too Late
I sat down with Laura Lewis, Founder of Spark, whose path through Homeland Security, finance, culture work, and even hydroponic farming reveals something leaders overlook every day:
Retention, motivation, and culture have nothing to do with perks, and everything to do with safety, clarity, and connection.
A few insights worth your time:
• Fear-based leadership kills innovation long before KPIs show it
• Every new hire wants to do a great job—they just need to know how
• Culture isn’t a vibe… It’s a system
• Documentation isn’t bureaucracy—it’s empowerment
• Scaling breaks when people feel disconnected, unseen, or unsupported
This episode uncovers the real growth playbook no one teaches. The one leaders usually discover only after the damage is already done.
If you care about scaling, leading, or protecting your people and technology investments next year, you’ll want to listen.
🎧 Episode Link: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/smidgen-of-proof/id1539996099
Thank you to everyone who’s tuned in, shared episodes, sent messages, or joined a workshop this year.
Here’s to a new year of better decisions, stronger teams, and growth that actually lasts.